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PostSubject: LGBT homeslices?   Mon Sep 01, 2014 1:40 am

I was kinda curious how many others of us homeslices fall somewhere on the LGBT spectrum. Also I hope this thread isn't just a bad idea >_>

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PostSubject: Re: LGBT homeslices?   Mon Sep 01, 2014 6:15 am

I'm bi and I'm the only person who has come out in my year (I'm 14) and I'm still pretty protective about it around some people (mainly 14 year old guys). also I'm male
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PostSubject: Re: LGBT homeslices?   Mon Sep 01, 2014 11:19 am

Ryan Sinclair wrote:
I'm bi and I'm the only person who has come out in my year (I'm 14) and I'm still pretty protective about it around some people (mainly 14 year old guys). also I'm male

Gay male here, 18 years of age. Can I give you some advice?

Don't tell anyone you're bi unless you absolutely trust them with your life. Why? because they could potentially ruin it with bullying and other shit like that. I know that a lot of people like to be proud of being gay/bi, but the hard truth is that you have to hide it in highschool, otherwise you will be the main target for heaps and heaps of bullies.

Besides, once you leave High school, you will only essentially talk to a couple of friends so your true friends are the only ones that need to know.

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PostSubject: Re: LGBT homeslices?   Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:18 pm

I was lucky, most people at my school didn't care. Which is odd, considering it's a largely conservative school.

I'm a bisexual person of androgynous gender identity (male sex, nontransitioning). I don't care about pronouns.

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PostSubject: Re: LGBT homeslices?   Mon Sep 01, 2014 2:55 pm

Sixthhokage1 wrote:
I was kinda curious how many others of us homeslices fall somewhere on the LGBT spectrum. Also I hope this thread isn't just a bad idea >_>

No worries we'll make sure this thread doesn't get out of hand. Plus majority of the community seems to be pretty open minded and level headed people. Another community I'm in actually has a surprising amount of people who fit into this category and once it started getting talked about, more and more became less afraid to admit it. I thought that was a good thing.

On topic, I'm bi. I figured this out when I was about 13 years old. Even though I'm married now with kids, I still feel the same way.
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PostSubject: Re: LGBT homeslices?   Tue Sep 02, 2014 4:27 pm

Just saw a link to this article on Facebook: A straight, cis man tells a trans woman to take the night bus. I know that when cis women have experiences like this, they're often not taken seriously (reasoning behind #YesAllWomen) so of course people would speak over trans women's experiences of harassment as well -_-

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PostSubject: Re: LGBT homeslices?   Tue Sep 02, 2014 5:11 pm



'nuff said.

If this gets out of hand in any way that is no longer acceptable, please just shoot a message to the mods.

Other than that: Humans are Humans. Every human should have the same rights. Period.

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PostSubject: Re: LGBT homeslices?   Tue Sep 02, 2014 6:21 pm

I'm bi. :3 I haven't come out to anyone among my friends and family. I know it won't be well received. Plus, if I do, they're just going to say, "Oh, it's a phase. I'm sure when you find the right man, you won't feel that way anymore." -_-

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PostSubject: Re: LGBT homeslices?   Tue Sep 02, 2014 6:51 pm

Luckily my family is very accepting. Except for my paternal grandma, who I probably will never out myself to so that she doesn't raise hell with the rest of my family, my dad in particular given that they're right down the road from each other.

ETA: Well, accepting about my bisexuality. I've said jack shit about my gender identity.

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PostSubject: Re: LGBT homeslices?   Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:05 am

I'm bi and trans*, MtF. If anyone drops any homophobic/biphobic/transphobic/generall queerphobic bullshit drop me a PM and I'll drop kick em for you :-)

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PostSubject: Re: LGBT homeslices?   Wed Sep 03, 2014 6:56 pm

I'm not sure if the term bi-curious is terminology that is legitimately utilized; however, I have absolutely no shame in saying that I have definitely considered being with the same sex in the past, and there is also a part of me that would most certainly be interested in a two-gender sexual encounter. I don't know if I can honestly consider myself bisexual due to not having any actual experience with a male, though.
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PostSubject: Re: LGBT homeslices?   Thu Sep 04, 2014 7:43 am

It's about attraction, not experience. If we're going purely by experience, I'm a lesbian. That doesn't stop me drooling over guys I couldn't get in my wildest dreams and *trying* to get a man

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PostSubject: Re: LGBT homeslices?   Thu Sep 04, 2014 4:29 pm

Im attracted to all Genders and sexs doesnt really count as bi, but basically if I find you as a person attractive then thats all there is to it
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PostSubject: Re: LGBT homeslices?   Thu Sep 04, 2014 4:52 pm

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Im attracted to all Genders and sexs doesnt really count as bi

Do i understand you correctly that you say that being attracted to both men and women can not really be counted as bi? Because... That's pretty much the definition of bisexuality...

GLAAD Media reference guide wrote:
BISEXUAL/BI: An individual who is physically, romantically and/or emotionally attracted to
men and women. (...)
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If this for any reasons is not correct, i would be interested in definitions about these feelings/preferences

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more recent definition by GLAAD
GLAAD Media reference guide wrote:
A person who has the capacity to form enduring physical, romantic and/or emotional attractions to those of the same gender or to those of another gender. People may experience this attraction in differing ways and degrees over their lifetime. Bisexual people need not have had specific sexual experiences to be bisexual; in fact, they need not have had any sexual experience at all to identify as bisexual.
Of course source again

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PostSubject: Re: LGBT homeslices?   Thu Sep 04, 2014 6:08 pm

the generally accepted term for my sexuality I believe is Pansexual, although this sometimes is mis-used or interchanged with "poly sexual" and so I can never be too sure if its still correct

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Definition:Pansexuals have the capability of attraction to others regardless of their gender identity or biological sex. A pansexual could be open to someone who is male, female, transgender, intersex, or agendered/genderqueer.
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Not limited in sexual choice with regard to biological sex, gender, or gender identity.
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of course Neq you know Im not here to start an arguments, and I fully admit my post may have been misleading but sometimes its a bit difficult to explain
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PostSubject: Re: LGBT homeslices?   Thu Sep 04, 2014 6:15 pm

I dnt belive in gender
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PostSubject: Re: LGBT homeslices?   Thu Sep 04, 2014 6:17 pm

Oh don't get me wrong. I'm not here for confilct or discussion but for simple curiosity about the "vocabulary". I just know, from my german peers, that bisexuality is pretty much that, what Oxford or glaad says about it. Attraction to men and women... So i asked Wink

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PostSubject: Re: LGBT homeslices?   Thu Sep 04, 2014 6:18 pm

yeah, the main difference for me is that neither nor biological nor the mental gender/sex of the person comes into it, its simply the person that matters if that makes sense
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PostSubject: Re: LGBT homeslices?   Thu Sep 04, 2014 6:21 pm

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I dnt belive in gender
You are free to do so. It's a social definition trying to fit characteristics that used to be "male" or "female" into a sex.
It's more than hard to believe the usual definitions still fit, over ever fitted, the character of every individual.

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PostSubject: Re: LGBT homeslices?   Thu Sep 04, 2014 6:52 pm

Gender is very real, but very complex and involves a lot of social construction. To put it in a very simplified way, there's gender roles, gender identity, gender presentation, and gender assigned at birth. Gender assigned at birth is based on sex (which itself is not binary, as the existence of the broad category known as intersex shows) and determines the social roles that are expected of a person and how they are treated, i.e. gender roles, from the moment of their birth. Gender identity is the internal sense of self one has in relation to the physical sex of their body and the gender roles of their culture at that particular time. Gender presentation is one's outward expression of their gender identity. The gender roles expected of a person, of course, depend on their presentation. A closeted trans woman is expected male gender roles (including a subset of male privilege), while on the opposite end of presentation a stealth trans woman is expected female gender roles.

Of course there's certain feminists who hold that gender is nothing but a power structure to oppress women, but these tend to be people holding on to extremist versions of second-wave radfem ideology and also tend to fail at intersectional analysis of power systems (thus speaking over the experiences of huge swathes of other women).

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PostSubject: Re: LGBT homeslices?   Thu Sep 04, 2014 9:37 pm

Biologically male bisexual here. I'm somewhat confused as to what is my gender identity, but I usually feel more comfortable thinking of myself as a woman. I am very shy and insecure, however, so I don't let it show. I'm not really afraid of what people will think about that, I just don't like to be noticed by people around me, that makes me nervous...

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PostSubject: Re: LGBT homeslices?   Thu Sep 04, 2014 10:30 pm

Bi and proud :3

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PostSubject: Re: LGBT homeslices?   Fri Sep 05, 2014 10:42 am

I'm just going to leave this here http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Tumbler+on+sexuality+~.+greenish-gray+small+Decided+to+go+on+tumbler_8184e4_4598864.jpg

Please note that is /not/ the definition of pansexual...or bisexual for that matter.


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PostSubject: Re: LGBT homeslices?   Fri Sep 05, 2014 10:45 am

But yeah, it's great to see so many of my fellow homeslices are also queer Very Happy

I guess you could call us....homoslices

Too much Dave...I couldn't resist the pun...I make no apologies

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PostSubject: Re: LGBT homeslices?   Fri Sep 05, 2014 11:39 am

Oh lord, I forgot about that post XD

The distinction I heard and personally use between bi and pan is that gender is a factor to attraction with bi, it is not with pan. Under these definitions I identify as panromantic bisexual.

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